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Cliven Bundy

 

 

John R. Houk

© April 27, 2014

                            

Last Thursday I was listening to a Kelly Files report on Fox News. Megyn Kelly was talking about a New York Times exposé on Cliven Bundy. The author of the NYT exposé was Adam Nagourney. The essence of what Nagourney wrote is that in an interview with Cliven Bundy is a racist old bigot proven by statements in Bundy’s own words.

 

Evidently Megyn had not had all the information to form a rebuttal to Nagourney. From memory it seemed Megyn – using an even-handed voice – was regretful that the hero of property rights and the public opinion against Federal government intrusion in appropriating private land or sovereign state land, made racist statements about Black-Americans. I would say public control, but we all know today that Obama and his cadre of Leftists in government does not view “public” as We the People, rather the Obama cadre system considers “public” the bailiwick of top to bottom control of the Federal government’s whim – even ignoring the Constitutional checks and balances of the U.S. Congress.

 

So at this point I kind of shut down on listening to any other reports on television news knowing that even if Nagourney’s information was refutable I probably would not hear. Even when everyone knows the NYT is an in-the-tank Leftist rag these days, its past reputation as an honest source of the news is rarely contested when a story is presented as fact rather than an editorial opinion.

 

In my mind I knew Cliven Bundy was an old legitimate western cowboy. I mean literally, he grew up punching cattle on a family ranch. You have to realize these guys have an individuality that brings to mind the old wild west of cowpokes on horseback riding the range. My grandfather passed away in his seventies in the 1990s. That means he would have about 20 years the seniors of Cliven Bundy who I believe is currently in his late 60s. God rest my grandpa’s soul, he was one of these old cowboys that worked both with horses and with sheep. A combination that would have been a bit contradictory professionally in the late 1880s and 1890s. Regardless of the time span I know from experience my gramps was an honest hard working man that worked seasonal jobs in his older age as a ranch hand or a sheep herder in which he worked in what was left of the open spaces. The thing about these old boys, rather they were hard living party cowboys or Church going cowpokes, they had a bit of a rough matter-of-fact demeanor.

 

Let me share a brief story about my grandpa in his last days when he lived in a Nursing Home. Every Sunday while he could get about we picked him up from the Nursing Home for a day at Church and either a home cooked meal or day of lunch at a restaurant.

 

One of those days we went to Church as usual. We stood during worship singing good old fashioned combo Charismatic-Pentecostal songs with a few contemporary worship tunes thrown in. We sat down and listened to the sermon. I have to be I do have a memory that the Pastor’s sermon was inspiring but I do not recall at this time what it was about. But this one thing I do remember. After we were dismissed from the Service by the Pastor my grandpa did his half-step walking thing with his cane to grab the Pastor as he was walking by to do the traditional pastoral well-wishing at the door. My grandpa got our Pastor’s attention because he wanted to say a few brief words. And trust me – they were brief.  My grandpa had his big whiskered smile on his and reached to shake the Pastor’s hand and said this to him:

 

“That was the best g*d d**n service I’ve ever heard!”

 

Check it out! Even today I can’t bring myself to spell out the words.

 

As the words left my grandpa’s lips to my ears, I was standing directly behind him with my draw dropped and my hands covering my eyes and head while it was shaking. I was incredulous even though I suspected something down to cowboy earth would escape his vocal cords. I dreaded the response of our Pastor.

 

Pastor raised his eyes with a twinkle in them and looked directly into my grandpa’s and with mirth in his voice replied to my grandpa, “Why thank you” - followed by a heartfelt chuckle and a firm handshake.

 

My Pastor with much welcome on my part defused a frightful situation for me. But you know, that was the kind of well-meaning sincerity without thought of circumstantial consequences for political correctness that was my old cowboy grandpa.

 

When old cowboys like Cliven Bundy or my grandfather say something like “negroes” instead of more politically correct Black-Americans or Afro-Americans. My grandpa was not as so-much a Church-going man like Cliven Bundy. If the NYT would have talked to my grandpa they would have heard a term pertaining to Black Americans that is considered heinous hate-speech today, but in the days of my grandpa’s youth would not have been among his peers to be a racist word. Just like I can’t spell out the complimentary profanity my grandpa used toward my Pastor, also I am not going to write the Black American word that is considered – and well should be – hate-speech today. I guarantee my grandpa would not have intended the offensive word to be racist any more than I believe that Cliven Bundy’s expression that perhaps negroes were better off in slavery than the slave-dependence of government welfare today. Indeed, I have heard respected Conservative pundits say the same thing but with much more eloquent terms.

 

Anyway, I have since learned that the NYT and Adam Nagourney actually edited the Bundy interview to show Bundy in the most racist light possible. I have discovered that Leftists like the NYT purposefully smeared the ineloquent words of Cliven Bundy and his old cowboy thoughts that not up to date to 21st century pc language that is more cognizant of what is hurtful and what is proper in a social setting.

 

I have three different stories below that expose the NYT and Media Matters exposé as Left Wing propaganda meant to show Cliven Bundy in the worst possible light and disarm sympathetic American voters from expressing derision against Federal government Big Brother overreach.

 

There are two WND articles below. In the second WND article has two videos of Cliven Bundy making his controversial remarks about Blacks and Mexicans at the end: the first video is an unedited that the NYT and Media Matters did not want you to see and the second is the edited version that is being used to smear Bundy. (The Schiff-Bundy interview and the edited and unedited WND videos are not Youtube videos so I am not posting those.) Then last I have an Infowars.com article that has the Youtube version of the unedited version of the Bundy remarks and then Infowars.com places the edited parts in bold print to see the actual context Cliven Bundy was saying.

 

JRH 4/27/14

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BLACK LEADER SAYS BUNDY REMARKS NOT RACIST

Contends rancher talking about harm to African-Americans by 'leftist socialism'


By
BOB UNRUH

April 24, 2014

WorldNetDaily

 

A prominent black leader is coming to the defense of embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was pilloried on Thursday after the New York Times published a quote by him referencing slavery.

“He wasn’t talking so much about black folks, but about the harm and damage that the leftist socialism has done to blacks,” said former U.N. Ambassador Alan Keyes, who also is a columnist for WND.

 

The New York Times, in a report by Adam Nagourney, said Bundy, in a daily meeting Saturday with reporters and photographers covering his case, made the comments that critics are calling racist.

 

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Nagourney quoted Bundy saying.

 

Bundy was recalling public housing projects in North Las Vegas.

 

“And in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do.

 

 They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do,” he said.

 

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

 

Ammon Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s son, told WND that the quotes were taken out of context and that his father was commiserating over the poor situation in which blacks find themselves because of oppressive government programs, regulations and practices.

 

Keyes said that was evident.

 

“I find it appalling that we basically have a history of the leftist liberalism that wants to extinguish black people by abortion [and] destroying the family structure,” Keyes told WND. “All of these things if you just look at the effects, you would say this was planned by some racist madman to destroy the black community.”

 

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Then when somebody comes along to comment on that damage, the leftists all scream “racism,” he said.


“I think it’s time somebody started to recognize the racism that exists in its effects – the hard leftist ideology using the black community for their sacrificial lamb, for their sick ideology. It’s time we called them what they are,” he said.

 

“Now it’s racist to point it out.”

 

Ammon Bundy told WND: “They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate. That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.

 

He said he was “there standing right beside my father when he made those comments.”

 

“He was reaching out to the black community,” Ammon Bundy said.

 

“Growing up around him, and being beside him, I never once heard him say anything negative about any race,” he said. “I wish I could say that about everyone else I’ve been around. The black community, the white community, they joke back and forth. My father’s never lowered himself.”

 

Ammon Bundy said his father’s message “was taken out of context.”

 

The point was that the government “has kept them oppressed,” he said. “They’ve never been given a situation to be able to thrive, get themselves out of slavery.”

 

The Right Scoop blog reported Cliven Bundy confirmed he was wondering about what’s best for blacks.

 

“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”


Video-Audio: Peter Schiff interviewing Cliven Bundy

Bundy, 67, has been in the headlines over the past few weeks for his defiance of the federal government’s demand that he pay grazing fees. The federal Bureau of Land Management responded with an operation to confiscate and sell off his cattle.

 

Bundy claims that since his ranch operation, run by his family for more than 100 years, was grazing cattle before the BLM existed, his fees should be paid to the state, not Washington. More than 1,000 supporters, including armed militia members, joined Bundy at his ranch in a standoff with federal agents.

 

The federal agents backed down April 12, released the cattle and left the area.

 

WND reported just days ago Cliven Bundy’s interview with radio talk show host Dianne Linderman on the nationally syndicated “Everything That Matters” show.

 

On Easter Sunday, he said he respects the federal government, pledging allegiance to the flag.

 

“But [the government] has its place. It doesn’t have its place in the state of Nevada and … Clark County, and that’s where my ranch is. The federal government has no power and no ownership of this land, and they don’t want to accept that,” he said.

 

“I don’t stand alone,” he continued, “I have all of the prayers from lots of people around the world, and I feel those prayers. And those prayers take the tremble out of my legs. And I can stand strong and straight. And you know the spirit from our heavenly Father, I seek that every morning on my knees. And he gives me some guidance, and I go forth and I actually feel good. My health is good, my spirit is good and I feel strength. I do, I feel strength, I feel even happiness. And I have no idea where I’m going with this. It’s a day-by-day spiritual thing for me.”

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BUNDY-TIMES STING: WORSE THAN I THOUGHT

 

By JOSEPH FARAH

4/25/14

WorldNetDaily

 

First of all, let me begin by making an apology to Cliven Bundy.

 

In a slapdash column yesterday, I gave the New York Times more credit and credibility than it deserved.

 

I assumed, inappropriately and incorrectly, that the former newspaper of record had actually recounted the words of the Nevada rancher accurately and in context, given that there was an actual recording of the comments.

 

I was wrong.

 

After the Times smeared as a rock-ribbed racist through the use of selective quotes the new hero of resistance to tyranny in America, there was a new development: The video recording of the actual remarks emerged.

 

To say the New York Times bent over backwards to make Bundy look like an unregenerate bigot would be an understatement. I suggest you view the video for yourself at the end of this column. Does he seem like a hater to you? Or does he actually sound like a man with compassion for blacks who have been systematically abused by a new plantation mentality imposed by government dependence?

 

I did get one thing right, however. I explained it wasn’t really Bundy the New York Times was out to get. It was his supporters – especially elected officials who denounced the heavy-handed and militaristic way the Bureau of Land Management went after Bundy and his family.

 

It’s called guilt by association – something “progressives” formerly denounced. But, in this case, there was nothing to feel guilty about, because Bundy didn’t say anything racist.

 

Meanwhile, the guy who I suspect is the mastermind of the efforts by government to make an example of Cliven Bundy yesterday showed his own hand.

 

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called on all of his “progressive” friends to form a “united front” against Bundy.

 

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For those of you untrained in the tactical and strategic arts of the totalitarian left, let me explain that terminology. “United front” has special meaning to only one group – communists. If you doubt what I, a former commie, have to say about it, just Google the term. See for yourself. What Harry Reid’s use of this term suggests is the left considers Cliven Bundy and all those rallying around his cause to be the most important target of the day. The “progressives” are apoplectic about this showdown in the desert. After all, they are supposed to be the champions of hardworking people. The government is supposed to be the friend and savior of working people. Yet, what Cliven Bundy has done, using “progressive” terminology, is to “heighten the contradictions” of socialist reality.

 

Therefore, as the left often concludes in such cases, he must be destroyed.

 

That’s why Harry Reid calls him a “domestic terrorist.” That’s why Harry Reid calls for a “united front” against this simple, seemingly powerless rancher. That’s why Harry Reid strangely said after the standoff in the desert was defused, “It’s not over.”

 

The left has big plans for Cliven Bundy.

 

The left sees Bundy as a real threat.

 

And I suspect that’s why the official mouthpiece of the establishment left – the New York Times – jeopardized what’s left of its own reputation by misconstruing and misrepresenting Bundy’s remarks.

 

He’s that dangerous!

 

That’s why it was so important to demonize him as a “racist.” They want to use him as a dividing point: Line up behind the “racist” or against him. That’s the strategy – even though race is not even an issue in the controversy Bundy started by merely doing what his family has been doing in the Nevada desert for over 100 years.

 

Do you get it?

 

He’s a symbol. For some of us he’s a symbol of a fight against encroaching tyranny. For others he’s a symbol of resistance to achieving their socialist panacea.

 

It’s the old divide-and-conquer strategy.

 

They can’t win with the facts, with reality, with truth. So they need to create a fog to obscure what’s really taking place on the ground.

 

Unedited video of Cliven Bundy:


Edited video of Cliven Bundy:

 

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Unedited Video Shows Bundy Making Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican Comments

 

By Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
April 25, 2014

 

The controversy over Cliven Bundy’s “racist” remarks has taken a new turn after longer unedited footage emerged showing the Nevada cattle rancher making pro-black and pro-Mexican comments that were excised out of media reports.

 

VIDEO: Cliven Bundy (Full) Controversial Remarks April 19, 2014

 

 

[Blog Editor: I included the below information from Youtube that was not a part of the Infowars.com news story.]

 

Posted by Allen Gwinn

Published: Apr 24, 2014 8:29 am

**** UPDATED "PRE" REMARKS: http://youtu.be/v6xjGPmAckg
**** CNN soundbite version: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/...

Several comments here point out earlier remarks made by Bundy and claim these are taken out of context. In the interest of fairness, the above is a followup video of those remarks.

Full version of race remarks made by Bundy that have generated some controversy. If you're looking for a more hacked-up soundbite version that makes him look more like a racist, you might want to check out what CNN did to him at the link (above)

 

The full clip illustrates how the original New York Times report edited out statements made by Bundy both before and after his supposedly “racist” remarks, which when taken in their full context actually constitute a pro-minority position. Media Matters also cut out these crucial comments from their YouTube upload of Bundy’s remarks.

 

Bundy’s full comments are reprinted below, with the parts not printed by the New York Times and other media outlets highlighted in bold.

 

…” and so what I’ve testified to ya’, I was in the WATTS riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen the last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people is thinking they did not have their freedom; they didn’t have these things, and they didn’t have them.

 

We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

 

Let me tell... talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro.

 

When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas; and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids…. and there was always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for the kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for the young girls to do.

 

And because they were basically on government subsidy – so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

 

You know they didn’t get more freedom, uh they got less freedom – they got less family life, and their happiness -you could see it in their faces- they were not happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips – so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

 

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.

 

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structure than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people.

 

And we need to have those people join us and be with us…. not, not come to our party.

 

While Bundy’s use of terms such as “negro,” “colored people” and references to picking cotton are undoubtedly politically incorrect (though not unsurprising for a 67-year-old farmer), when taken in its full context, his argument is actually anti-racist in that it laments the plight of black families who have been caught in the trap of dependency on government.

 

The comments that were also vehemently pro-Mexican were not included in any of the mainstream reports which smeared Bundy as a racist.

 

“What’s more sad than the refusal to openly discuss the issues – is how quickly the conservative right is willing to throw Bundy to the wolves based solely on the New York Times and Media Matters opinion,” writes the Conservative Treehouse blog, noting that Bundy’s comments are no more controversial than those made by Shirley Sherrod, who was staunchly defended by leftists.

 

While Bundy’s remarks have been spun as a racist call for a return to slavery, he is clearly using references to slavery only to make a point that blacks are no better off living under the economic slavery of the welfare state.

 

Furthermore, Bundy’s argument that, “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail,” is clearly directed at the government’s treatment of black people and is therefore a defense of and not an attack on black Americans.

 

“It is 100% clear that Cliven Bundy is not saying that blacks should be slaves picking cotton, but that the federal government has created conditions for them so terrible, that their current situation may actually be worse,” writes Jack Flash. “And he’s not blaming blacks for the issues of abortions, and crime and broken families, he’s blaming the Feds. This is the exact opposite of a racist, this is an advocate for the welfare and best interests of blacks. Racist? Why is he praising Mexicans as better than whites, if he’s some sort of white supremacist racist?”

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Leftist Propaganda Meant to Smear and Disarm Govt. Criticism

John R. Houk

© April 27, 2014

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BLACK LEADER SAYS BUNDY REMARKS NOT RACIST

 

BUNDY-TIMES STING: WORSE THAN I THOUGHT

 

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Unedited Video Shows Bundy Making Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican Comments

 

Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.

 

 

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